tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post3031966678617839707..comments2023-10-29T11:51:45.600+00:00Comments on Bad Penny.: Music Writing For GirlsPennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-87591160909204064252012-07-25T20:55:48.831+01:002012-07-25T20:55:48.831+01:00I love this post. I am a girl who is very seriousl...I love this post. I am a girl who is very seriously into her music. I am such a nerd I have 'gig' rules. Maybe I alienate people but when I love something my reaction is 'OMG YOU HAVE TO HEAR THIS SONG WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO IT RIGHT NOW TEN TIMES IN A ROW' i dont think people like that :/<br />The i usually find out every little thing i can about the band, where they are from, ages, influences etc. I am a music geek. <br /><br />I don't know why girls appear to be more passive, but I do think we over look men. The amount of smart musically interested looking men who have tried to pull me at a club and I go something like'We cant go snog, spiritualized is playing' and they look all dumb founded and don't know who they are despite probably wearing a spiritualized tshirt they've picked up from Newlook or Primark. <br /><br />Maybe that makes me a snob... I dunno. But I love this post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-29948262285406849802012-07-19T21:23:32.264+01:002012-07-19T21:23:32.264+01:00I've never heard of Mono, will check it out. W...I've never heard of Mono, will check it out. When I was wee I used to love going to Tower Records which was like 5 floors of music discovery. Penny I think you need to recommend me some peeps who are playing in Glasgow soon please :) xx<br /><br />Ps did you see my news of the day...Uranus has a moon named after me! A MOON!Roznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-23432488238990027662012-07-18T14:13:25.324+01:002012-07-18T14:13:25.324+01:00Penny, I just wanted to say that I always read you...Penny, I just wanted to say that I always read your music posts on FF and I've discovered some great new things through that. I'm hopeless at music but I love the way that you don't make me feel like I'm an idiot (which is exactly your point!). Though I'd still feel too musically dim to comment! Emily xEmilynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-47179946261968466522012-07-18T09:01:23.449+01:002012-07-18T09:01:23.449+01:00Seconded. My Glasgwegian husband would love to mo...Seconded. My Glasgwegian husband would love to move back home one day and his major motivation is not being close to his mum, but the live music scene in Glasgow. xGemma C-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04939350699496757742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-4611440295587436342012-07-17T21:23:04.486+01:002012-07-17T21:23:04.486+01:00I love the T Rex breakfast memory! You live in suc...I love the T Rex breakfast memory! You live in such an amazing city for music, some great record shops too if i remember - is Mono still going? I bought Jamie Liddel's Multiply on double 12" there when it came out. You should definitely check out the local music scene, drag the boy along! Sam is always a reluctant accomplice to gigs, generally he gets into it eventually...<br /><br />PxPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-26554486306714694632012-07-17T20:53:15.342+01:002012-07-17T20:53:15.342+01:00I feel like I am so late to this party. I love mu...I feel like I am so late to this party. I love music, I feel like songs are literally a soundtrack to my life, constantly being transported back to the first time I heard a song or the person / event / weekend it reminds me of. I couldn't be happier coming home from a crap day at work and putting on my current favourite album and chilling. The boy doesn't get this and comes home and puts the tv on. And don't even get me started on his music tastes, he listens to DJ Mixes (radio station) in the bath to chill out.<br /><br />I have never really read music columns or magazines and I find my musical preferences still influenced by what my parents used to listen to (I still whoop with delight when the robinsons squash advert comes on with We Love to Boogie playing as it reminds me of my dad getting ready for work in the mornings, we used to eat breakfast and get ready for work / school listening to T-Rex, Bowie, Fleetwood Mac!). As for how I discover new music, lately I've been downloading the free song of the week from iTunes (usually pretty main stream i know but I heard Ben Howard for the first time through this months ago and I really like him) and also buying random albums that are priced really cheap in Fopp just because. Maybe not the most scientific but then I also love your FF posts for more informed guidance :). Penny I would love it if you set up a music blog. <br /><br />Also the older I get the more I want to go to smaller local gigs and with King Tuts on my doorstep in Glasgow, which I have still never been to, I recently told the boy we needed to scope out some upcoming gigs and head along (before we actually get too old!) xx<br /><br />Ps musical trousers sound immense!Roznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-52650508700258166302012-07-17T17:50:04.729+01:002012-07-17T17:50:04.729+01:00... and I've found one of the main reasons I&#...... and I've found one of the main reasons I'm not so up to date with music. My hubby loves big hair 80s classic rock and likes to blast it out around the house. time to reclaim rights over the stereo I think!!Linseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315977204589309181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-31485996411260807492012-07-17T17:05:52.948+01:002012-07-17T17:05:52.948+01:00well at the moment we're battling over who fou...well at the moment we're battling over who found Other Lives first. It was me, aggggeeeessss ago. And I am going to sew you some musical trousers...Gemma C-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04939350699496757742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-84147042919993740762012-07-17T16:36:12.563+01:002012-07-17T16:36:12.563+01:00I kind of prefer the sex change story, to be hones...I kind of prefer the sex change story, to be honest. I am fortunate enough to wear the musical trousers (musical trousers - imagine!) in my marriage. I would have beaten Mr C-S over the head with a nineties indiestick if I'd heard him make that detestable assumption. Maybe it was as much to do with his ancient age as the fact that you are a girl...<br /><br />PxPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-53091597759558333212012-07-17T16:12:18.754+01:002012-07-17T16:12:18.754+01:00oh crumbs reading over that it is worse than I fea...oh crumbs reading over that it is worse than I feared. The 2009 editor of NME didn't, I don't think, have a sex change (although maybe she felt the need to conform, who knows?) but rather was succeeded by a man, and I shouldn't have used in general twice in the same sentence, but YES I have heard of Pop Will Eat Itself actually Mr C-S thanks for asking and next time you can ruddy well invite me along to the gig too.Gemma C-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04939350699496757742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-68316648174360502702012-07-17T16:09:33.800+01:002012-07-17T16:09:33.800+01:00As you know P, through MANY conversations, I am NO...As you know P, through MANY conversations, I am NOT a passive pursuant of music. It is SO annoying me when Mr C-S assumes he knows more than me/thinks I wouldn't have heard of something/doesn't ask me what I want to listen to on a Saturday morning. In general though, I think the indie music scene in particular (and anything that's not top 40 in general) is something that's seen by the masses as for boys only, or for girls who dress a certain 'indie' way and have something to prove. This is a massive generalisation, obvs, because liking music is like liking books or films. I also remember a big hoo-ha being made of the fact that NME appointed a female editor in 2009. It's not sooo long since then but when I went on the website to remind myself of her name found that the editor is now a man. <br />This comment has not quite conveyed my point, which is probably due to Siobhan-esque work computer sneaking issues combined with extreme tiredness.<br />For the record P too, comments on FF don't necessarily reflect page views and as you know getting to read your music column in advance is one of the greatest joys of my life. And no I am not exaggerating. xxGemma C-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04939350699496757742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-49021936360357341112012-07-17T16:04:21.376+01:002012-07-17T16:04:21.376+01:00Er Penny you really should start a music blog! As ...Er Penny you really should start a music blog! As long as you don't give up this one.amyhttp://www.fieldandfallow.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-23097210611872962432012-07-17T14:06:48.439+01:002012-07-17T14:06:48.439+01:00I've always seen music and clothes/personal st...I've always seen music and clothes/personal style as completely connected so don't get the separation of the two and am not sure I ever will. I once stopped thinking my hairdresser was cool, when she said she liked all kinds of music and then explained that meant she liked garage AND r'n'b (nothing wrong with those two genres but there is SO MUCH MORE out there and so many ace tunes if you are willing to look. I think some songs unite most people too, like when the dancefloor went crazy at our wedding for Crazy in Love, I Think We're Alone Now, London Calling and um 500 Miles...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00414010663277948166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-31930250010670106652012-07-17T13:35:47.548+01:002012-07-17T13:35:47.548+01:00Maybe it's not having the time to listen to mu...Maybe it's not having the time to listen to music any more? I definitely noticed my interest creeping up as I've had to drive more for work. <br /><br />I also think it's hard to get one-stop shops for music online... I tend to trawl everywhere and there's a lot of terrible stuff that's just been hyped by trendy bastards, or avant garde stuff that's just difficult listening and very much down to personal taste. Music blog post definitely on the cards, thanks Linsey!<br /><br />I'm thinking I should actually start my own music blog now...<br /><br />PxPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-78912348384923989152012-07-17T13:34:48.466+01:002012-07-17T13:34:48.466+01:00*cant stand...*cant stand...Anna, Oh yes! I like that. https://www.blogger.com/profile/02412267601612352111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-80768297724371317122012-07-17T13:28:14.261+01:002012-07-17T13:28:14.261+01:00I was really into music until my mid to late 20s a...I was really into music until my mid to late 20s and i feel like I've lost touch over the past couple of years but I'm not entirely sure why. I have less time now and tend not to have my headphones surgically attached to my ears like I used to! I also feel at a bit of a loss about where to find new music, music blog post penny?? But I have to admit I often revert back to the albums I know all the words to so I can sing along!Linseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315977204589309181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-42658869003815434022012-07-17T13:21:03.547+01:002012-07-17T13:21:03.547+01:00I completely agree about style magazine interviews...I completely agree about style magazine interviews.... those intros where "she slips in with not a scrap of makeup on, in her navy blue loafers and a slim belt circling her wisp of a waist...." oh fuck OFF! And yeah, that will be some politician or important charity figurehead or something - somebody who's appearance has nothing to do with anything. It makes me sick. Who are these women who really want to know that stuff? Do they actually exist?<br /><br />Music is just the tip of the iceberg with women's magazines, perhaps... (and isn't it nice that this is what makes Florence Finds different! Good old Rebecca)<br /><br />PxPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-72859273621716399782012-07-17T13:16:19.286+01:002012-07-17T13:16:19.286+01:00Hmmm, I think maybe both genders tend to shuffle m...Hmmm, I think maybe both genders tend to shuffle music down their priority list as they grow out of teenage years... I can think of plenty of guys who'd say the same thing as you too! Also, we get (happily) stuck with the stuff we like, too, so our CD collection stalls at a certain era.<br /><br />I'm now wondering whether the fashion industry's need to keep turning over means that a premium is put on buying new items... and music doesn't work like that at all.... it might explain why women tend to get caught up in "keeping up with the Joneses" in terms of style trends, but still put on the same trusted favourite CDs!<br /><br />PxPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-6291507293550402052012-07-17T13:09:25.430+01:002012-07-17T13:09:25.430+01:00My phone just spasmed so double comment sorry... I...My phone just spasmed so double comment sorry... I think Katie's point resonates with me. Magazines focus so much on the look; fashion, album cover etc that even when they interview artists it's not much about the music which is stupid<br /><br />I can stand it when they ask musicians/politicians/authors about what's in their bloody make up bag instead<br />Of interesting questions about their talent/specialist subject it's so patronising to them and the reader<br /><br />I guess I'm just not One of those people that knows all the band members names and the producers and all the albums, I just like the songs I like. Maybe that makes me a bit of a music ignoramus. Sorry Penny.<br /><br />I love your playlist posts though, that's because when someone writes about something they're passionate about- whatever it is- its interesting to me. <br /><br />Additionally, I never know what to comment on your FF posts- I read them but I always feel really inadequate on the subject to commentAnna, Oh yes! I like that. https://www.blogger.com/profile/02412267601612352111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-48894853507299480272012-07-17T13:08:29.285+01:002012-07-17T13:08:29.285+01:00I'm really lazy when it comes to music, even w...I'm really lazy when it comes to music, even with bands I enjoy I'm usually the last to find out about their new songs. Big sis and baby niece keep me educated with new stuff but other than that I fall foul of listening to the same old thing, I couldn't even tell you the last time my iPod was updated! Occasionally I get all enthusiastic and attempt to tame my, mostly unorganised, music collection but I usually get bored within 5 minutes. <br /><br />I enjoy music, it's just a bit of a background activity for me I guess. I do enjoy your posts though :)steffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10898777265552711541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-48516256846614329542012-07-17T13:04:11.278+01:002012-07-17T13:04:11.278+01:00I just don't really read about or hunt out new...I just don't really read about or hunt out new music. If people recommend stuff to me I'll listen robot but I very very rarely buy musicAnna, Oh yes! I like that. https://www.blogger.com/profile/02412267601612352111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-18303661393600959242012-07-17T12:53:38.150+01:002012-07-17T12:53:38.150+01:00It is a ruddy good time for new music at the momen...It is a ruddy good time for new music at the moment! The only bonus of being in a difficult political/economic climate :)<br /><br />PxPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-3435246445835710072012-07-17T12:52:37.105+01:002012-07-17T12:52:37.105+01:00Thanks for your comment Esme - just knowing they&#...Thanks for your comment Esme - just knowing they're being read is enough for me! I think even if I keep going for ten years and one person falls in love with one record in that whole time, then that's job done. I guess what I'm trying to do is bridge the gap between the personal review (which I prefer getting, too) and the reviews online and in the press. I'm not claiming to be a pioneer or anything (there's many more like me who do it far better) but I really think if there was more of that about, then it would redress the balance slightly.<br /><br /><br />PxPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-27498295076784146782012-07-17T12:47:57.732+01:002012-07-17T12:47:57.732+01:00See Linds you're EXACTLY the kind of person I ...See Linds you're EXACTLY the kind of person I imagine writing for when I do the posts... someone who thinks "normal" music journalism is a bit cliquey and dry as a bone, but still loves music and likes finding new stuff.<br /><br />I know exactly what you mean about Guardian music, etc... I think I know quite a lot about popular music, but I still find some comments elitist. I think it's just part of that type of writing, that you need to earn your place in those ranks by being able to reference some obscure Belgian skiffle band. It's an insecurity/geekiness a lot of music writers seem to have, and it's stupid. Writing about music is about communication, and that's really not working if you're only communicating effectively to two other people on the planet (who happen to own that 7" by that obscure Belgian skiffle band).<br /><br />Thanks so much for your comment! I could talk about this all day, your responses have been so interesting!<br /><br />PxPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3227801669278401053.post-68581168818159104942012-07-17T12:43:18.312+01:002012-07-17T12:43:18.312+01:00Jeez, I'd never even thought of the festival/m...Jeez, I'd never even thought of the festival/music contradiction! That's just blown my mind a bit. I suspect you're right - that it's a very good example of how women's magazine culture dictates a narrow field of women's interests. I wonder if we let that affect our thinking more than we'd like to admit... (I always feel like a crap girl because I'm not that interested in recipes or baking).<br /><br />PxPennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140441387378978556noreply@blogger.com